Build bar on concrete floor or lay tile first?

[dougmcbr]

Hello everyone,

I am stoked at building my first bar. I am completely new to building so this is going to be exciting (and I’m sure hectic at the same time .) I do have one question that I am trying to figure out. I read in these forums that you can build the bar on concrete floor, tile, wood and carpet but no where have I found out which on is best. I plan on putting tile down around the bar. My question is should I build my bar and then tile around it or put tile down first and build on it? Which one is better. I was thinking about using adhesive to hold it in place either way.

Thank you in advance for your input

Josh

[mckdelbu]

Josh:

If you’re doing this as a permanent installation, build directly on the floor. Use treated lumber whenever in contact with concrete.
If you’re a tenant or plan to move anytime soon…build above. In this case, you can use normal construction lumber.

[dougmcbr]

Thank you for the quick response sam,

Yes it is going to be permanent so I will just do it directly on the floor. Thank you. Do you think that the adhesive will be enough to hold it in place. I plan to use a modified EHBP-09 45 Degree L-Shaped Wet Bar. The side that is touching the wall, do I need to attach that somehow also.

Thanks
Josh

[Anonymous]

Josh, when you’re finished buidling the bar, you’ll realize that it is quite heavy. A dab of construction adhesive here and there underneath corners and so on will be more than adequate to keep it in place. Regarding attaching to the wall, it would certainly make sense to, which would enable you to make the connection nice and tight and secure. Good luck!

Scott

[mckdelbu]

^^^ what Scott said ^^^

he’s exactly right, PL-200 is some stubborn stuff, but a much better alternative to wrecking the integrity of your floor. You never know when one little crack decide to become longer, and longer, and longer….you get the idea.

As far as the wall connection…absolutely! Mine is connected to the wall. In fact the wall opening is where I placed my keg box, so the keg box fridge unit is actually behind the wall and not taking up valuable bar space. It’s easier to maintenance from that side too. See:

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those are all shots of my bar…looks a bit different today, those a re a few years old.

have fun!

[mc_bittn]

I put down the tile first and built the bar right on top of the tile. The tile was placed diagonal so that a straight line was not an issue. I did not use any adhesive where the bar fram me the tiled floor. The end that me the wall was secured with nails/screws. The bar is heavy and isn’t going anywhere. Plus I have a lolly column comneing up through the bar that I enclosed with wood giving it a column look.

[dougmcbr]

Thank you all for the replies. Great information and what a great community.

I can not wait to start on my bar.

[ayerskja]

What’s goin’ on Gents?! First time poster and I have a similar question that will probably garner the same answer as above. I just recently finished my basement and installing laminate flooring and now… I have the grand idea of building a bar some 6 months later. My question is am I ok with building the bar on top of the new floor? Or… should I remove the area in which I plan to build the bar?

I’m looking at going with either the straight bar or a straight/45 degree custom.

[mc_bittn]

I would just put the bar on top of whatever you have. However it should be anchored somehow such as where it meets the wall. Not crazy about laminate flooring. I think it is better to have tile with a tight grout. Easy cleaning, etc.

[Anonymous]

I would just build your bar right over the existing laminate. I love laminate, especially
Around the bar itself. Makes for easy clean up of spills. And believe me when I say the
Finished bar will be rather heavy so don’t worry too much about anchoring it. She’s not
Going anywhere! Cheers, and have fun.

[ayerskja]

Thanks guys! I figured it would be heavy enough that it wouldn’t budge but, we did have our first earthquake here in Maryland in some 50 years. 😆 Anchoring it to the wall might help as well. One more question, the middle section of the 45 Degree Bar (Section isn’t editable, so can I essential build two middle sections of that plan that are connected at the ends. Essentially a straight bar with 45’s on each end? The plan is to make a shadow box display out of both 45’s. **Redskins PLEASE DRAFT RGIII !!!*

[mlbates]

Thanks Josh for asking the same question I needed the answer to. Have installed tiling on the concrete floor. Plan on building the “L” shape and will use the adhesive as recommended. Will also attach the end against the wall into the wall, (will try to hit a stud). Thanks guys for the recommendation.

[bgillespie09]

Hey guys, I’m working out the details to begin building my bar in the next couple weeks, but I need a question answered before I can begin.

The location I plan on putting the bar is new hardwood flooring. I would like the option to remove/move it in the event that homebuyers way down the road may not want it. In the interest of preserving the condition of the wood below it, is there something I can lay below the base to 1. Keep it from sliding at all (regardless of how heavy, it could still move slightly enough to scratch) 2. Protect the wood floor from dents or scratches

The only think I could think of would be mats similar to the rubber gym mats under all the boards in contact with the floor. Is there a better way or a product made for this? Or is there another way I should go about this? Thanks!

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[cjfreem1]

There’s no product that I know of…you could use felt, but that might slide. You could also use silicone adhesive which would prevent sliding and eventually be removable if needed.

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