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April 26, 2007 at 10:10 am #19528Anonymous
I mixed up some EnviroTex Lite and poured it on my bar top.
Problem is it’s so thick it didn’t flow and lay down evenly, I worked it with a putty knife trying to smooth it out but couldn’t get rid of irregularities.
I used a torch to get rid of bubbles.
Now should I sand it down a bit, wipe it with acetone and pour another coat of EnviroTex on it?
Is it possible to thin the EnviroTex out with some acetone too get it to lay down better?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
BruceApril 28, 2007 at 12:49 am #20004AnonymousYou may need to put the bottles in hot water before mixing the stuff.
April 28, 2007 at 4:25 pm #20006AnonymousIf mixed at room temp it should flow freely, about the consistencey of maple syrup and you should be able to push is around easily with a sponge brush. Don’t use a cheap bristle brush, since they shed bristles which may contaminate you nice clear coat.
It sounds like you got a bad batch or the mix was not correct.
Did it pour from the botttle easily? That is really odd.
It should take several hours to develop a tack and it will take weeks or even months before its rock hard. You will notice that setting glasses on it will leave a dent, but even when it’s semi cured, those dents come out by themselves in a day or two. Be sure to use coasters for the first few months.
I guess your own suggestion is the best, and that’s what I’d do.
Let us know how it works out.April 28, 2007 at 4:42 pm #20007How thick is the difference? Pouring another coat does seem to be the next step. I agree that perhaps too much hardener could have been mixed ? Causing set up to occur too quickly and it could not self level in time ?
April 28, 2007 at 8:42 pm #20008AnonymousWhen I mixed the 2 parts I used the whole package, so no errors in measuring.
It was a lot thicker than maple syrup. Maybe along the line of contact cement, not quit as thick. Basically when I poured it on to the bar top, it didn’t flow smoothly it just sat where it was poured.
In retrospect I should have used a foam brush or even a quality bristle brush, next time I’ll try that.
Heating the containers before I mix them, that sound’s like it might help it flow.
What do you think about thinning it with acetone? Not a lot, perhaps mix it with the resin until I like the consistency and then add the hardener?
When I’m finished I plan on uploading all my pic’s from start to finish, so far it’s turned out excellent, just this little hiccup.
Thanks,
April 29, 2007 at 4:45 pm #20009I used a 4″ wide plastic drywll puddy knife. Not to smoothe it but just spread it around so it was covering the whole bar top. Once it covered the entire surface , it should have leveled itself. I really have a hard time believing that you must heat the cans a little. Before you put another coat on it. did you maybe put a layer that was too thick. I think the can said 1/8″ thick at a time. There must be a season for that ? I had to makw two seperate pours. This stuff is not cheap, might be wise to figure out if possibly what went wrong rather than repeating the same thing and same outcome.
April 29, 2007 at 10:17 pm #20010AnonymousI have only put 1 coat on, and it wasn’t more than 1/8” thick maybe closer to 1/16th.
I did not heat the cans. Someone recommended it so I thought I might try it.
I did use a putty, mud, drywall knife to spread it, the knife was approx. 4-5”.
How about the thinning with acetone, anyone have an opinion?
I’ll take a pic and post it.
Thanks,
Bruce
April 30, 2007 at 3:46 pm #20011Was there any type of silicone on the surface that would have repeled the envirotex. I’m speaking from experience because that happened to me. I sealed some edges before my first pour. Where I had, the envirotex did not spread to. I had to remove all traces of the silicone before the envirotex spread properly.
Have you tried contacting the manufacturer. You never know, they might tracethe batch via the info on the box you still have I hope ? If anyone can answer the acetone question they can. Besides you never know they might have suggestions and maybe even send you replacement product “satisfaction guarantee” ?
Sounds like you did everything right otherwise ?May 3, 2007 at 5:46 am #20015AnonymousThere was no silicon used.
Contacting the manufacturer, that sounds like a good idea!
I’ll ask them about thinning with acetone.
Thanks,May 5, 2007 at 5:54 am #20017AnonymousBruce:
I can’t answer the acetone question. I doubt that would work, unless the product was acteone based. Seeing as though you can heat it with a torch without it going KABLOOEY, I would say it’s water based, or a non flammable epoxy resin.
You ever open a carton of eggs and have one with a chick in it?
Or crack a beer that tastes like an egg with a chick in it?
Yuck! 😯It sounds like that’s what you got here.
I’d contact the manufacturer.A photo of the original glob would have helped.
May 7, 2007 at 3:01 am #20018AnonymousLOL
Skunky beer.
I’ve got a new batch, so I’m gonna sand it down a bit, wipe it will acetone and but another layer on it.
What do you think about that?May 10, 2007 at 5:21 am #20021your just like me, bull headed. Good Luck.
April 19, 2011 at 7:04 pm #20597I’m planning on building my first bar (modified l-Shaped Kegger) and I figured I should ask since this subject has come up, on the off chance something like this happens to me (uneven pour for whatever reason), what would the solution be to even it out?
April 19, 2011 at 7:49 pm #20598It sounds like the original poster just got a bad batch. I wouldn’t worry though. Envirotex is virtually fool proof. The biggest thing to do is be sure you have a secure rim all the way around the perimeter so that once you pour it on, it does not leak out and all over the floor. It stays liquid for quite a long time and will self level to a glass like surface. You will have some air bubbles due to mixing the two parts, but they are removed using a propane torch (read the directions thoroughly). You will also notice that once it appears to be set up, it really is not. Placing a mug of beer on it a week or two later may create an indentation. Remove the glass and in a few hours the indentation will again self level and disappear. Mine bar top took over a month to get rock hard. Envirotex is probably the best bar top finish you can buy. You’ll love it!
Check out the Builder’s gallery for example where people used it to cover tile, hockey pucks, coins, etc….
June 1, 2011 at 3:48 am #20632Anonymoussam3062 wrote:It sounds like the original poster just got a bad batch. I would worry though. Envirotex is virtually fool proof. The biggest thing to do is be sure you have a secure rim all the way around the perimeter so that once you pour it on, it does not leak out and all over the floor. It stays liquid for quite a long time and will self level to a glass like surface. You will have some air bubbles due to mixing the two parts, but they are removed using a propane torch (read the directions thoroughly). You will also notice that once it appears to be set up, it really is not. Placing a mug of beer on it a week or two later may create an indentation. Remove the glass and in a few hours the indentation will again self level and disappear. Mine bar top took over a month to get rock hard. Envirotex is probably the best bar top finish you can buy. You’ll love it!Check out the Builder’s gallery for example where people used it to cover tile, hockey pucks, coins, etc….
It looks like this is a super old thread, but I just want to address something.
Mentioned earlier, the OP said he used all of it so there are no errors in mixing. It’s entirely possible that the seperate parts are NOT equally measured from the factory. In fact, they definitely are not measured equally from the factory.
You should always always measure your ratios even when using all of it.
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